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					 Inviato: 22/08/2016, 2:30   | 
				 
				 
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					 Iscritto il: 24/07/2014, 20:03 Messaggi: 70 Località: Armenia
						 Nome: Vahe Martirosyan
					
				
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						 I think this is Protaetia (Netocia) araratica (Reitter, 1891) 
					
						
  
						
					
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					 Inviato: 22/08/2016, 8:17   | 
				 
				 
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					 Iscritto il: 05/02/2009, 17:28 Messaggi: 3226
						 Nome: Marco Uliana
					
				
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						 Wow. I have never seen this species. How did you find it? 
					
  
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					 Inviato: 22/08/2016, 8:58   | 
				 
				 
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					 Iscritto il: 09/11/2009, 14:12 Messaggi: 5145 Località: Hradec Kralove,Czech republik
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						Catalogue of Life: 28th July 2016http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/deta ... 9cbae05640Protaetia (Netocia) excavata (Gory & Percheron, 1833) (accepted name)	 Cetonia excavata Faldermann, 1835 (synonym)	 Potosia (Melanosa) excavata araratica Reitter, 1891 (synonym)	 Potosia (Melanosa) excavata lora Reitter, 1891 (synonym)	 Potosia (Netocia) excavata virescens Medvedev, 1964 (synonym) Löbl I. et Löbl D., 2016 - Catalogue of Palaearctic Coleoptera. Volume 3. Scarabaeoidea, Scirtoidea, Dascilloidea, Buprestoidea and Byrrhoidea. Revised and Updated Editionararatica Reitter, 1891d: 69 (Melanosa) E: AB AR GG A: AF IN KI KZ TM TR UZ excavata Faldermann, 1835a: 299 (Cetonia) [HN] lora Reitter, 1891d: 68 (Melanosa)Reitter E.,1891:Darstellung der echten Cetoniden-Gattungen und deren mir bekannte Arten aus Europa und den angrenzenden Ländern  Deutsche Entomologische Zeitschrift. Berlin (1):49-74 
					
						
  
						
					
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					 Inviato: 22/08/2016, 18:06   | 
				 
				 
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					 Iscritto il: 24/07/2014, 20:03 Messaggi: 70 Località: Armenia
						 Nome: Vahe Martirosyan
					
				
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						Glaphyrus ha scritto: Wow. I have never seen this species. How did you find it? I found it near a road in Areni, on Carduus sp. among with a lot of N. hungarica armeniaca. It was only araratica in about 50 armeniacas. I've been explored Armenia very much in about 8 years and this is my first finding of araratica.  
					
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					 Inviato: 22/08/2016, 18:09   | 
				 
				 
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						Honza ha scritto: Catalogue of Life: 28th July 2016http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/deta ... 9cbae05640Protaetia (Netocia) excavata (Gory & Percheron, 1833) (accepted name)	 Cetonia excavata Faldermann, 1835 (synonym)	 Potosia (Melanosa) excavata araratica Reitter, 1891 (synonym)	 Potosia (Melanosa) excavata lora Reitter, 1891 (synonym)	 Potosia (Netocia) excavata virescens Medvedev, 1964 (synonym) Löbl I. et Löbl D., 2016 - Catalogue of Palaearctic Coleoptera. Volume 3. Scarabaeoidea, Scirtoidea, Dascilloidea, Buprestoidea and Byrrhoidea. Revised and Updated Editionararatica Reitter, 1891d: 69 (Melanosa) E: AB AR GG A: AF IN KI KZ TM TR UZ excavata Faldermann, 1835a: 299 (Cetonia) [HN] lora Reitter, 1891d: 68 (Melanosa)Reitter E.,1891:Darstellung der echten Cetoniden-Gattungen und deren mir bekannte Arten aus Europa und den angrenzenden Ländern  Deutsche Entomologische Zeitschrift. Berlin (1):49-74 Thanks for the info dear collegue. So how do you prefer to name this species?    
					
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					 Inviato: 22/08/2016, 18:52   | 
				 
				 
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					 Iscritto il: 05/02/2009, 17:28 Messaggi: 3226
						 Nome: Marco Uliana
					
				
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						vahemart ha scritto:  I've been explored Armenia very much in about 8 years and this is my first finding of araratica. It looks a female... you should have tried a breeding  
					
  
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					 Inviato: 22/08/2016, 19:22   | 
				 
				 
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					 Iscritto il: 09/11/2009, 14:12 Messaggi: 5145 Località: Hradec Kralove,Czech republik
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						vahemart ha scritto: Thanks for the info dear collegue. So how do you prefer to name this species?   in my collection as  Protaetia (Netocia) excavata (Gory & Percheron, 1833)  - My pieces different from your specimens , maybe good subspecies Protaetia (Netocia) excavata araratica Reitter 1891  -  Ararat in Turkey / ArmeniaDescription originale :Gory M.H. & Percheron M.A. 1833 - Monographie des Cétoines et genres voisins, formant dans les familles naturelles de Latreille, le division des Scarabées Mélitophiles. J.B. Baillières éditor. Paris :1-140 
					
						
  
						
					
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					 Inviato: 22/08/2016, 22:03   | 
				 
				 
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					 Iscritto il: 24/07/2014, 20:03 Messaggi: 70 Località: Armenia
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						Glaphyrus ha scritto: vahemart ha scritto:  I've been explored Armenia very much in about 8 years and this is my first finding of araratica. It looks a female... you should have tried a breeding It's too late for breeding, but the idea of breeding is good  
					
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					 Inviato: 22/08/2016, 22:06   | 
				 
				 
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					 Iscritto il: 24/07/2014, 20:03 Messaggi: 70 Località: Armenia
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						Honza ha scritto: vahemart ha scritto: Thanks for the info dear collegue. So how do you prefer to name this species?   in my collection as  Protaetia (Netocia) excavata (Gory & Percheron, 1833)  - My pieces different from your specimens , maybe good subspecies Protaetia (Netocia) excavata araratica Reitter 1891  -  Ararat in Turkey / ArmeniaDescription originale :Gory M.H. & Percheron M.A. 1833 - Monographie des Cétoines et genres voisins, formant dans les familles naturelles de Latreille, le division des Scarabées Mélitophiles. J.B. Baillières éditor. Paris :1-140It is very unclear how to name this species, and the question needs further studies.  
					
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					 Iscritto il: 09/11/2009, 14:12 Messaggi: 5145 Località: Hradec Kralove,Czech republik
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						 Protaetia (Netocia) araratica (Reitter, 1891) 
					
						
  
						
					
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					 Iscritto il: 24/07/2014, 20:03 Messaggi: 70 Località: Armenia
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						Honza ha scritto: Protaetia (Netocia) araratica (Reitter, 1891) Nice specimen, thanks for sharing!  
					
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