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cosmln
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Inviato: 17/06/2010, 9:13 |
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Iscritto il: 26/03/2010, 14:55 Messaggi: 5932 Località: Romania
Nome: Cosmin-Ovidiu Manci
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Plagionotus
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Inviato: 17/06/2010, 10:01 |
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Iscritto il: 21/05/2009, 14:59 Messaggi: 6987 Località: Casinalbo (MO)
Nome: Riccardo Poloni
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I think this is Anthaxia (Cratomerus) hungarica, but I don't know if there are another species in Greece 
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cosmln
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Inviato: 17/06/2010, 10:03 |
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Iscritto il: 26/03/2010, 14:55 Messaggi: 5932 Località: Romania
Nome: Cosmin-Ovidiu Manci
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dadopimpi ha scritto: I think this is Anthaxia (Cratomerus) hungarica, but I don't know if there are another species in Greece  is not hungarica or sponsa, collected both of them  (both are much larger and look different). cosmln
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f.izzillo
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Inviato: 17/06/2010, 10:34 |
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Iscritto il: 22/12/2009, 13:31 Messaggi: 9646 Località: Napoli
Nome: Francesco Izzillo
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Potrebbe essre una femmina di Anthaxia (Cratomerus) eugeniae ma è molto difficile esserne certi da una foto; pertanto la mia ipotesi è unicamente indicativa.
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cosmln
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Inviato: 17/06/2010, 10:44 |
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Iscritto il: 26/03/2010, 14:55 Messaggi: 5932 Località: Romania
Nome: Cosmin-Ovidiu Manci
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f.izzillo ha scritto: Potrebbe essre una femmina di Anthaxia (Cratomerus) eugeniae ma è molto difficile esserne certi da una foto; pertanto la mia ipotesi è unicamente indicativa. if remember correctly, collected several specimens with that occasion, and when will glues this will put some more photos and maybe will find also a male (and will prepare genitalia). cosmln
_________________ Cosmin-Ovidiu Manci ********************** cosmln's place - my blogjust insectsDragonflies of Romania
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Julodis
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Inviato: 21/06/2010, 7:25 |
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Iscritto il: 30/12/2009, 22:20 Messaggi: 31564 Località: Roma
Nome: Maurizio Gigli
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Dovrebbe essere una eugeniae, ma non me la sento di escludere la sponsa, solo dalla foto. Potrebbe servire un particolare della testa-protorace-antenne.
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Mr. Anthaxia
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Inviato: 11/07/2010, 15:48 |
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Hi Cosmin, it is a rule for me to confirm identification only after examination under a microscope, but from this pictures I would say that it is a nice female of Anthaxia (Cratomerus) sponsa Kiesenwetter, 1857, though it also resembles a female of Anthaxia (Cratomerus) diadema Fisher von Waldheim, 1824, (which should also be present in that area), but in this latter the space between the pronotal black bands is always much narrower than in sponsa, and the laterobasal pronotal depressions are deeper and more sharply defined. If you collected also males, then it shouldn't be too difficult, because males of diadema have swallen femurs, like in hungarica. 
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AdYRuicanescu
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Inviato: 14/07/2010, 11:31 |
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Iscritto il: 22/03/2010, 10:17 Messaggi: 1158 Località: Cluj-Napoca, Romania
Nome: Adrian Ruicanescu
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Mr. Anthaxia ha scritto: Hi Cosmin, it is a rule for me to confirm identification only after examination under a microscope, but from this pictures I would say that it is a nice female of Anthaxia (Cratomerus) sponsa Kiesenwetter, 1857, though it also resembles a female of Anthaxia (Cratomerus) diadema Fisher von Waldheim, 1824, (which should also be present in that area), but in this latter the space between the pronotal black bands is always much narrower than in sponsa, and the laterobasal pronotal depressions are deeper and more sharply defined. If you collected also males, then it shouldn't be too difficult, because males of diadema have swallen femurs, like in hungarica.  I have hungarica and diadema too. I just got only one pair of diadema. But my female of diadema has the same color like the male, just very light golden shimmer at the side of the pronotum. I have 2 females of sponsa, no male and both of them have dark blue elytrae, like the females of hungarica. The sponsa specimens were determined by Dr. S. Bily, so I have no doubts. I just want to see more females of sponsa, because I still don't know this species too well.
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Mr. Anthaxia
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Inviato: 01/08/2010, 10:00 |
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Hallo Cosmin, I am still curios about this specimen. In the previous answer I had indicated as possible sponsa and diadema, but now that I have checked my material I think the following: It cannot be hungarica, because as we can see, in this specimen the prosternum is green while in hungarica the ventral side is thoroughly bright red; also in diadema (reddish/greenish ventral side) and in scorzonerae (green underside) the prosternum is of the same color as the rest of the underside; so what we have left from that area is the more common sponsa, and the sporadic eugeniae; I think that most likely this is a female of sponsa, but I would like to see the males you caught in the same spot, if you can. 
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