Forum Entomologi Italiani

Dicerca sp. ?

TURKEY - ANTALYA prov.,
25 km Elmali, Avlanbeli Gecidi,
1200m,
17.V.2001

Size: 17 mm

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Acmaeodera
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I can just say what it's not, in my opinion.
It is different from Dicerca aenea
It is too large and short to be Dicerca berolinensis and Dicerca alni
Prothorax and elytral apex are different from Dicerca amphibia
I was thinking to Dicerca chlorostigma, but I can check my 3 specimens, because I don't remember where I put the boxes with Dicerca (I have got them back by Roman Holynski, and I put them somewhere, but I forgot where!), but searching on the web I found an old drawing, and it seems very similar to berolinensis and alni.
Also Dicerca fritillum is different.

I don't know Dicerca aenea bella Abeille de Perrin, 1891

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Maurizio Gigli
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Hi Maurizio,

yes, its also my hot tip, but I dont know somebody who have D.chlorostigma in collection...
So I will wait for Your discovery of box with them in Your house....
Thank U

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Today I must stay all the day with my mother. If I found enough time to check where I put these boxes, especially the right box with D. chlorostigma, I'll take a picture of this species and I'll send it to the Forum, so you can check it by youself.

Ciao

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Maurizio Gigli
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G´d morning Maurizio,
okay, - I founded one photo of D.aenea bella on web of my friend - but its male specimen, and my is sure female...

I cannot decide...

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They are not exactly the same, but surely very similar! However, I found the box sent back by Roman. Later, I'll take a picture of my specimen of chlorostigma (there was only one, without antennae and with broken tarsi , but it's enough to compare with yours)

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Maurizio Gigli
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Same problem like the other post before,
this is a Latipalpis, subgenus Palpilatis!
In my opinion this is Latipalpis stellio (Kiesenwetter, 1857), but aedeagus is for determination very helpful!

Tomasius

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Yes, very good.
Take a look at the lower part of elytra, the form of pronotum, the generally structure of elytra and pronotum. In my opinion your specimen looks very similar to L. stellio.

It's also my opinion for the pronotum, but I am not so sure for elytra and scutellum.
The simplest way to be sure of the genus is checking antennales pores, in my opinion (see also my answer to this other post)

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Maurizio Gigli
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I would vote for Latipalpis stellio .Females must have larger scutellum than males.

..."More heads know more"...

Yes, I have answer by my friend, who compered it with specimen in his collectio...

Latipalpis stellio (Kiesenwetter,1857) - female

Thanx to everybody here...
I must say, that the longer I look at something, the more I see nothing... :-)

Maurizio, please, take me here photo of Your deffected specimen of Dicerca chlorostigma - for better imagine... Thanx

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