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Inviato: 08/07/2017, 18:46 |
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Iscritto il: 28/07/2010, 11:11 Messaggi: 235 Località: Poland
Nome: Jacek Kurzawa
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Marcello - that's right! Cosmin, yours Vadonia from this topic is Vadonia saucia not V.hirsuta. In 2012 all people trust Serafim's pictures - they was wrong. Examination type of Vadonia hirsuta by Danilevsky in 2014 showed that Vadonia hirsuta belong to unipunctata group (aedagus). Mikhail sent me (to Giannis and others people, too) 2.03.2014 photos of types Vadonia hirsuta so post of Giannis was based on information from Mikhail, before article of M.D. V.hirsuta should be treated as V.unipunctata hirsuta. Yours V.saucia is surely saucia but probably is subsepcies of saucia (need description).
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Julodis
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Inviato: 08/07/2017, 18:58 |
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Iscritto il: 30/12/2009, 22:20 Messaggi: 31564 Località: Roma
Nome: Maurizio Gigli
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Grazie ad entrambi. Ora finalmente si capisce! 
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Giannis
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Inviato: 13/07/2017, 10:29 |
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Giannis
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Inviato: 13/07/2017, 10:35 |
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You can also find everything in my publication about the entire genus Vadonia.
Vadonia-genus

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Giannis
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Inviato: 13/07/2017, 10:38 |
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Vadoni-genus
Vadonia

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Giannis
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Inviato: 13/07/2017, 10:39 |
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Vadonia-genus
vadonia

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Antonio Verdugo
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Inviato: 13/07/2017, 10:45 |
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Iscritto il: 28/03/2011, 14:46 Messaggi: 634 Località: Cadiz, España
Nome: Antonio Verdugo
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Giannis, hoy I can obtain your work on Vadonia spp? Thanks A.
_________________ Antonio Verdugo https://sites.google.com/site/unentomologoandaluz/
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Inviato: 13/07/2017, 15:42 |
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Iscritto il: 26/03/2010, 14:55 Messaggi: 5932 Località: Romania
Nome: Cosmin-Ovidiu Manci
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Inviato: 14/07/2017, 7:50 |
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I have printed the publication "Vadonia genus" for my private affair. But a lot of her colleagues wanted, so I've had 200 pieces publications "Vadonia genus" donated or exchanged for any Cerambycidae.
genus vadonia

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Giannis
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Inviato: 14/07/2017, 7:55 |
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And if I had such a good photographer as "Cosmin", the publication "Vadonia genus" would be even better and perfect, including all the penis in the males.Cosmin colleague makes beautiful photos.
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Inviato: 17/07/2017, 23:50 |
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Iscritto il: 28/07/2010, 11:11 Messaggi: 235 Località: Poland
Nome: Jacek Kurzawa
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Giannis ha scritto: It was only after working with M.Danilevsky, we concluded that this is a new species for Romania, Vadonia saucia. No it is not new species for Romania. Mikhail Danilevsky was suggested that it might be a new subspecies (new taxonomic postion): "Probably it would be adequate to describe Rumanian taxon as a new subspecies of Vadonia saucia." not "a new species for fauna of Romania". In fact V.saucia was reported by Serafim (2006) on the base photos and pictures, wrongly determined as V.hirsuta. It should be corrected, nothing more.
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Inviato: 21/08/2018, 17:46 |
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Iscritto il: 28/02/2018, 9:09 Messaggi: 11
Nome: karel novák
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Vadonia-2, new publication 2018, complete of the entire genus including new species, all in over 300 photos, taxa, penises, maps
genus Vadonia-2

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