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Nascosti tra le grinze della corteccia di due diversi giovani olmi morenti/morti di recente. Diametro tronco 25-30 cm
Trovati a mezzanotte cercando con torcia nei pressi di Casal Novo in Toscana 60 m.
Sono lucanidae?

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Claudio Deiaco
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not Lucanidae.
Trogossitidae, I think Temnochila caerulea (Olivier, 1790), another here.
in Greece found this under Pinus bark.

cosmln

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Cosmin-Ovidiu Manci
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Dragonflies of Romania

It´s Temnoscheila sp. (Trogossitidae). In Catalogue of Palearctic Coleoptera is only Temnoscheila tristis from Italy. But I don´t what is different between T. caerulea and T. tristis.

Thank You Cosmin

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Claudio Deiaco
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Löbl,Smetana: Catalogue of Palearctic Coleoptera Vol.4, 2004

family TROGOSSITIDAE Latreille, 1802
subfamily Trogossitinae Latreille, 1802
tribe Trogossitini Latreille, 1802
genus Temnoscheila Westwood, 1830
caerulea A. G. Olivier, 1790

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Taxonomy, ecology, biomonitoring , faunistic of Staphylinidae

in Catalogue of Palearctic Coleoptera vol. 4 page 365 (3 sp.):
caerulea A. G. Olivier, 1790a: no 19: 6 (Trogossita) E: AU BH BU CR FR GR PT SK SP ST SV SZ N" AG CI
japonica Reitter, 1875c: 20 (Trogosita) A: FE JANC NE
tristis Mulsant & Rey, 1853b: 8 (Trogosita) E: IT NTR

and yes I know from this caerulea is not present in Italy.

after FaunaEU:
distribution for caerulea include also Italy.
for tristis only Sicily Island (Italy)
this was also a reason for me to say caerulea.

have no idea what are the differences between the two species ... this was the reason for "I think"

cosmln

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Cosmin-Ovidiu Manci
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cosmln's place - my blog
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Dragonflies of Romania

So, no Temnoscheila is known from Sardinia... I've found it, but... caerulea or tristis

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Daniele

If they are caerulae, they are still present in Italy. Read link, attached by Cosmin

Thank You in any case Ondrei

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Claudio Deiaco
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Checklist of the Italian fauna on-line http://www.faunaitalia.it/checklist/introduction.html

Temnochila Westwood, 1835

Temnochila coerulea (Olivier, 1790) (N, S, Si, Sa)

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Taxonomy, ecology, biomonitoring , faunistic of Staphylinidae

Hi Jan
Temnoscheila or Temnocheila?
Well, may do you know the difference between caerulea and tristis?

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Claudio Deiaco
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Temnoscheila

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Taxonomy, ecology, biomonitoring , faunistic of Staphylinidae

Thanks

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Claudio Deiaco
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33.2.3.1. when an unjustified emendation is in prevailing usage and is attributed to the original author and date it is deemed to be a justified emendation.

Example. Because Helophorus, an unjustified emendation by Illiger (1801) of Elophorus Fabricius, 1775, is in prevailing use in the Coleoptera and attributed to Fabricius, it is deemed to be a justified emendation; the name Helophorus Fabricius, 1775 is to be maintained as the correct spelling

e quindi Temnochila Westwood, 1835

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maurizio

Perché 1835? (e non 1830)

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Marcello Romano

l'ho copiato dalla pagina della checklist senza controllare altro ... non so perché scrivono 1835, non è nemmeno la data dell'emendazione di Erichson, che è il 1844; emendazione originariamente ingiustificata, ma come abbiamo visto, da trattarsi come giustificata

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maurizio